Comments for Detecting Finds https://detectingfinds.co.uk/ Metal detecting finds identification and news, free online coin valuations, coin auction news Thu, 13 Aug 2026 21:20:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1 Comment on Seal matrix of Gleu of Rothwell by Daniel Rothwell https://detectingfinds.co.uk/seal-matrix-of-gleu-of-rothwell#comment-12247 Thu, 13 Aug 2026 21:20:37 +0000 https://detectingfinds.co.uk/?p=20046#comment-12247 The founder of the Rothwells of Lincolnshire was a man called Gleu. His forename was Breton and he hailed from Brittany. He probably named his son, Alan, after a popular king of Brittany. Gleu almost certainly was part of a large contingent of warriors who took part in the 20-year-long Norman conquest of England following the invasion of 1066. These Breton settlers were mostly landless younger sons of aristocrats who had been won over by William of Normandy (William I of England), with promises of land should his conquest be successful. Gleu was “daipifer” and possibly kinsman to another Breton who was known as Alfred of Lincoln; daipifer being a Breton title for a steward.  

The heraldic seal and counterseal of another Alan, son of William de Rovel (Rowelle), of Rothwell in Lincolnshire is recorded in the Catalogue of seals in the British Museum (Walter de Gray Birch, vol. III, p.459, 1894). It depicts a spur-rowel of six points, and is an example of canting arms – a play upon the surname and placename pronounced as “Rowell.” A rowel fitted the heal of a boot and was used to spur a horse on. Other examples of canting arms include the image of a bell to represent the surname Bell. In addition, Alan used a counterseal, known as a secretum, which depicted a knight’s horse. His heraldic seals are dated to the reign of Henry III (1216-1272). A “spur rowel” is also known as a mullet in heraldry. The mullet becomes a spur rowel when it is “pierced” with a circular hole in the centre and has six points. Only those of high status were legally allowed to wear spurs, knights being allowed gold or gilded spurs; esquires’ had silver spurs, whilst those of a page were tinned. The presence or absence of spurs were the major clues as to a man’s status, more so than the quality of his clothing. When a page became an esquire, or an esquire was knighted, he was given new spurs during the ceremony, from which we get the expression, “he earned his spurs.” The label of three points in the chief or top of Alan’s shield is an early use of a cadency mark, and is used here to show that the arms were the personal property of Alan de Rowell as the eldest son. Although other cadency marks developed after 1500, only the label, indicating the eldest son, was in general use in the medieval period. Before 1500, the method of “differencing,” usually by an alteration in colours or a slight change of design was used to distinguish one branch from another of the same family.

In 1291 there was a bitter dispute between John de Rowell, and his stepmother Philippa regarding the manorial lands of Rothwell, Lincolnshire, with John claiming that she had made waste of part of his inheritance. John also fell into dispute with the Seagraves and in 1301 he attacked the men of Simon de Seagrave who were lodging at Market Rasen. Failing to appear at County Court five times, an enquiry of 1303 comments that he had abjured the realm, (gone to another country) and that his lands and possessions now had been in the king’s hands for a year and a day. In other words, he was now an outlaw and his estate had been confiscated by the Crown. Outlawry tainted not only the offender but their entire family who lost their rights of inheritance and their social status. An outlaw in England could legally be killed by anyone on sight, although there was a legal formula that involved the outlaw keeping to the highway whilst carrying a cross until he left the country.  

In the same year, John’s father, Robert de Rothewell was murdered, and probably by his sons as one of them, a priest called Alan, was detained in prison at Lincoln for ‘receiving his brothers’ following the murder. Alan petitioned the Crown twice in 1306 for his release, but Edward I’s reply was, “Let nothing be done.”  

In 1304, the Rothwell estates at ‘Langeton and Rothewell,’ Lincolnshire, including ‘the advowson of the church of Rothewelle, which Robert de Rothewell, deceased, held in chief, and which, through the felony of John, his son and heir, for which the said John was outlawed, came to the king’s hands as an escheat,’ were granted in fee simple to ‘Nicholas Malemeyns,’ who is described as a king’s yeoman. (Calendar of the Patent Rolls preserved in the Public Record Office: Edward I).

Some Rothwells continued in the area as tenants, and in 1346 a Robert Rothwell was paying rent for lands in Rothwell, Thoresway and Nettleton, whilst a John Rothwell was renting nearby Ireby. The Rothwells were still tenanting the same lands in 1428.  

The seal matrix of ‘Gleudit son of William,’ shown here may have belonged to a younger brother of Alan son of William de Rovel, or at least to a cousin. It seems possible that the ‘ star or stylised flower,’ is a depiction of a knight’s spur, and that it may even be Alan’s “spur rowel,” or heraldic mullet, differenced.  

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Comment on Seal matrix of Gleu of Rothwell by Daniel Rothwell https://detectingfinds.co.uk/seal-matrix-of-gleu-of-rothwell#comment-12222 Tue, 11 Aug 2026 12:13:30 +0000 https://detectingfinds.co.uk/?p=20046#comment-12222 I have some information on this family that I am happy to share.

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Comment on Seal matrix of stag’s head and cross by Steven Battle https://detectingfinds.co.uk/object/seal-matrix-of-stags-head-and-cross#comment-10515 Wed, 03 Jun 2026 07:26:05 +0000 https://detectingfinds.co.uk/?post_type=object&p=19465#comment-10515 Hello,
very informative and interesting article.
I found a seal matrix in Lincolnshire, more or less identical .
I’m very happy with my find.
just curious to know more and it’s value.
Regards.
Steven Battle

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Comment on Peter D Spencer Biography by David Woodhouse https://detectingfinds.co.uk/peter-spencer#comment-10211 Thu, 28 May 2026 10:29:40 +0000 https://mintstate.live-website.com/?p=509#comment-10211 I will never forget the wonderful write up you put in the December 2000 edition of the Searcher about my intriguing Henry 1st type 10 penny, with the reverse ANDERAM ON EI
It later transpired that there was a N L ligation, so it read ANDERAM ON LEI. So my coin was the first known coin made by ANDERAM at Leicester. There are 3 now known, including mine.

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Comment on Edward V penny by Fernando https://detectingfinds.co.uk/object/edward-v-penny#comment-8407 Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:30:21 +0000 https://detectingfinds.co.uk/?post_type=object&p=15111#comment-8407 rarest coins greatest find I’ll say unlikely to ever see one

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Comment on Phoenix Pure bag seal by Detectnician https://detectingfinds.co.uk/object/phoenix-pure-bag-seal#comment-8142 Tue, 07 Apr 2026 23:24:59 +0000 https://detectingfinds.co.uk/?post_type=object&p=24600#comment-8142 Hi
I dont know if anyone monitors this website? I just want to say thanks for the info on this bag seal. I found a very nice example of one just yesterday, (Monday), in Cork, Ireland. I have it on a youtube video under the channel name Detectnician. I had no idea what it was until a viewer put me in the right direction.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Detectnician.

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Comment on The Archers features discovery of coins by Andy gee https://detectingfinds.co.uk/the-archers-features-discovery-of-coins#comment-5876 Fri, 13 Feb 2026 19:25:36 +0000 https://mintstate.live-website.com/?p=406#comment-5876 Hi Peter, got some news on the George and dragon. It’s definitely order of the garter,Clifford family,for documents and I want it sent back to the king or the British museum at best for free . I will pay to send it back but want proof

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Comment on Peter D Spencer Biography by Andy gee https://detectingfinds.co.uk/peter-spencer#comment-5875 Fri, 13 Feb 2026 19:02:05 +0000 https://mintstate.live-website.com/?p=509#comment-5875 Andy gee

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Comment on Tail Waggers Club medallion by Jake Cowie https://detectingfinds.co.uk/object/tail-waggers-club-medallion#comment-5022 Sun, 09 Nov 2025 16:38:24 +0000 https://detectingfinds.co.uk/?post_type=object&p=13418#comment-5022 Found one detecting yesterday in Auchterarder Scotland.

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Comment on Groat of Edward III by Steve Simmons https://detectingfinds.co.uk/groat-of-edward-iii-5#comment-4032 Fri, 15 Aug 2025 17:19:22 +0000 https://detectingfinds.co.uk/?p=27682#comment-4032 Thank you for identifying the class, I really struggled to find the information required.

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